Since perrin didn't have comments enabled, I'll post here this mildly amusing part of the interview:
See? Perl doesn't even have Catalyst. It says so, so it must be true :-)Siddalingaiah: Ruby is a dynamic language, but there are many others, such as LISP and Smalltalk. Are there lessons we can learn from the one of oldest and one of the most innovative of languages?
Tate: Sure. Ruby is actually a nice fusion of Smalltalk and Lisp. I think the biggest lesson is that you need a catalyst. Ruby has Rails. None of the other dynamic languages got a catalyst.
