Writing

rafael on 2002-09-26T09:42:17

English is not my native language. I was not even a good student in school. My english got better when I began to read Usenet and O'Reilly books. And now I'm daily writing stuff in english, I contributed some docs to Perl, and I even write medium-sized articles.

My vocabulary is quite limited, and as a consequence, my prose is rather terse, and I'm writing in english twice as slow as in french. (I'm usually much more verbose in french.) To remedy to this, I began to read english (or american) literature (Under the Volcano to start. Next books on my list : Thomas Pynchon, Herman Melville and Philip K. Dick, my favorite american writers.)

gnat's notes on writing made me think about one thing or two. For example, I'll never mistake its and it's : they look totally different to me. I don't know whether this is caused by the fact that I learned the english grammar before I learned to speak english. On the other hand, I never mistake a and à in french (that's a similar grammatical error).

While I've a good understanding of the general rules of english grammar, I'm unfamiliar with the good practice of written or spoken english. That's why I'm reading english books now. My english often looks like french -- to me anyway. That's weird because I tend to think in english for technical matters. (Similarly, my grandfather, a Sicilian immigrant to Tunisia and then to France, was using french for some subjects, sicilian for some others.)

A final remark. I've always thought that really good programmers are necessarily good at grammar (and that people that are very good at grammar are potentially great programmers). My experience has generally confirmed this. I think that understanding the grammar of a natural language and learning the grammar to interact with a computer involve roughly the same brain wires. I wonder what the opinion of Noam Chomsky would be on this.


Your English sounds pretty good to me!

jdavidb on 2002-09-26T15:10:28

English is not my native language.

Congratulations; you could successfully fool me.

My vocabulary is quite limited, and as a consequence, my prose is rather terse

That sentence alone would probably send a significant number of native speakers scrambling for their dictionaries. Are you sure your vocabulary is limited? :)

Just for fun, I ran your post through the Lingua::EN::Fathom module, which I learned about recently from one of Randall's columns. According to the fog index, your post is on a 12th grade reading level.

Congratulations; you're a native.

(gnat, want to compare with a transcript of one of Bush's speeches? :) )

Re:Your English sounds pretty good to me!

rafael on 2002-09-26T15:36:14

Thanks ;-) About my vocabulary limitations : guess what I'd answer to this :
Which word doesn't relate to the others in this list ? Fork, Spoon, Unix System Call.
You got the idea. My english is strictly technical. And my accent is awful.