So, I downloaded Metallica's new CD over the weekend. No, I didn't use a terrible, evil P2P program... I simply went to the NNTP newsgroups and got it like I always do...
Anyway, I am SOOOOOOOOOO glad that I didn't pay even a penny for this steaming pile of crap! It sounds like they were TRYING so desperately to make music, but failed miserably...
I was so overjoyed that they were able to work the "F" word into a song also - that way they can get the "Parental Advisory" sticker on the CD and millions of grade-school kiddies will buy it!
Man, what a piece of crap.
That sentiment is pretty common. Not about the new Metallica album in particular, but about the state of the entertainment industry in general.Anyway, I am SOOOOOOOOOO glad that I didn't pay even a penny for this steaming pile of crap!
The New York Times wrote about that this weekend. For all of the hew and cry that people are killing the music industry with p2p because no one wants to pay for "entertainment" anymore, the new Harry Potter book sells 5M copies in the US its first day on sale.
Why? Because people are still willing to buy music (and books, and movie tickets and
Case in point: I got to see The Matrix Reloaded at YAPC for a steep discount, and I still want my $8 back.
Steep discount
jdavidboyd on 2003-06-30T13:46:50
$8 is a steeply discounted price? I guess I haven't been to the movies in a long time...Re:Steep discount
ziggy on 2003-06-30T13:59:52
No. The steeply discounted price was free, but I still want my $8 back. The movie was that bad. The only redeeming feature were the other 99 perlfolk sniping at the film:The Architect: Denial is the most predictable of human responses.The Audience: No, it isn't!
Re:Art vs. Commmerce
barbie on 2003-06-30T14:41:09
Why? Because people are still willing to buy music (and books, and movie tickets and....) if it's worth paying for! So true. If only record labels and movie makers in particular would wake up to that fact.
I actually bought the Metallica CD, mainly because of the limited edition DVD accompanyment. Anyone even thinking the same as I, please don't bother. You are setting yourself up for extreme disappointment. The Linkin Park CD&DVD edition of Meteora on the hand is well worth the extra £3 it cost me.
I find it extremely arrogant of Metallica to have so heavy handedly attacked the P2P networking apps, and claim they were losing money, when they produce such "6th-form" tosh such as their latest effort. I had seen several posts on the newsgroups, with follow-ups stating things like "not-metallica its a covers band" and other derrogatory statements. I gave them the benefit of the doubt and downloaded and came to the same conclusion. It wasn't metallica. Having bought the CD, I can confer it was indeed Metallica performing such embarrassing drivel.
I wonder how many fans they expect at the concerts? I sincerely hope the numbers drop off, once they hear the album.
Re:Art vs. Commmerce
Sifmole on 2003-08-06T13:16:05
Why? Because people are still willing to buy music (and books, and movie tickets and....) if it's worth paying for! This is the classic justification.. usually sounds something like this -- "I download it, and if I like it then I go buy it."; let's face it, for the majority of downloaders this is a crock and not what happens. They download and keep on listening, never buying.
The other lame justification I detest is, "Well I couldn't afford it -- so I never would have bought whether I could download it or not. So my downloading it didn't cost them anything.". It boggles my mind how this makes sense to anybody. Does your personally inability to afford something you want somehow grant you the right to thereby take it? I want my 745i fully loaded -- can't afford it; does that mean I can just go take it?
Admission -- I have at one time or the other over the past 20 odd years pirated music, movies, computer games, and even books. I just don't believe in lieing to oneself.
its theft, plain-and-simple.
Re:Art vs. Commmerce
cemetarydiver on 2006-06-24T03:50:13
metallica sold out its show in 22 minutes. what has linkin park done that? Pry Not! It just goes to show you that more and more people are buying into the pop propaganda that linkin park promotes.Re:Art vs. Commmerce
jordan on 2003-06-30T19:53:41
- The New York Times wrote about that [nytimes.com] this weekend. For all of the hew and cry that people are killing the music industry with p2p because no one wants to pay for "entertainment" anymore, the new Harry Potter book sells 5M copies in the US its first day on sale.
Good point. I bet you can find the new Harry Potter on-line somewhere, if you didn't want to pay for it, but so many people are buying it...
As much as I hate to support the blood-sucking Record Companies, I have to say that I've not been disappointed in one recent purchase. I like Annie Lenox's Bare.
Six months ago, I got David Bowie's Heathen and Peter Gabriel's Up and I think they are both pretty good.
I guess I'm pretty selective. Really though, if I buy 2 or 3 good albums in a year and listen to what's already in my collection, I'm pretty happy with what I have available to me. I don't get the manic craze to have umpteen Terabytes of MP3s, constantly rotating to what you are listening.
I can understand the artists who are upset that people aren't listening to albums in order anymore. Clearly, the artists put them in that order for a reason. Maybe some albums are a collection of disjoint singles, I dunno.
Re:Art vs. Commmerce
chaoticset on 2003-07-01T16:52:10
Hell, I rebought _Black Celebration_ recently because I couldn't locate my long-ago legitimately purchased copy. (I spent maybe half an hour trying to figure out if the whole album was downloadable, but I also remembered that my liner notes and case had been destroyed. I actually felt like buying it again.)As much as I hate to support the blood-sucking Record Companies, I have to say that I've not been disappointed in one recent purchase. I like Annie Lenox's Bare.I considered it a well-spent 12 and change, despite the fact that my original purchase of it was at a Marden's for 2 whole dollars. (Which was, thank you, practically theft. So worth it.)
I was happy to have the music again, got it home, and promptly ripped it so I'd have the music whenever I felt like. The CD went back in the case, and I'm going to store it a little more carefully this time.
Black Celebration
vek on 2003-07-01T17:53:54
Damn good album. Any album that has 'Fly On The Windscreen', 'Stripped' and 'New Dress' *has* to be good in my book. Not quite the best album DM ever did as I think Violator is *slightly* better but Black Celebration is an extremely good album nonetheless:-) Re:Black Celebration
chaoticset on 2003-07-01T19:54:02
I was actually looking at _Violator_ just before I decided to pick up _Celebration_ again. The decision hinged on something an old friend of mine told me years ago, that DM's style had varied significantly at times.Or, I'm on crack, and that's not what they told me. Any comparisons in terms of style/speed/etc. that would be pertinent in me deciding whether or not to buy _Violator_?
I don't have a problem supporting Depeche Mode.
:D Re:Black Celebration
vek on 2003-07-02T15:40:45
Just get both of them:-)
I suppose Black Celebration is a little 'darker' than Violator but at the end of the day you won't be disappointed with either.Re:Black Celebration
Sifmole on 2003-08-06T13:03:25
Violator is hardly a "Poor" album, but it is the most commercial of all their albums. It is not entirely that they changed their style to pander to a wider audience, at least some of the popularity can be attributed to the audience coming in-line for a brief period.
"Black Celebration" is an album I feel is better, "Construction Time Again" is very good as well. ( all opinions my own ).
A good purchase I have enjoyed was "Singles 81-85" for their original stuff.Re:Black Celebration
vek on 2003-08-06T15:17:12
The 'Singles 81-85' album was actually the first DM album I bought. "Shake The Disease" and "It's Called A Heart" had recently been on the charts (in the UK anyway) so I bought the album because I liked those two songs. From there I realized that I liked *all* the songs the album and then proceeded to buy everything DM ever did. Blimey, can't believe that was 18 years ago - where does the time go?
