Attack of the Clones (no spoilers)

gnat on 2002-06-01T05:19:00

Good: Kiwi actors all over the place. Temuera Morrison (who played Jango Fett), Jay Laga'aia (security trooper guy), and Daniel Logan (baby Boba). Some of the industrial landscape shots.

Bad: some of the effects (knife cutting levitated pear was crap, assassin getting out of buggy was crap). All of the screenplay. All of it. Too long, way too long. The direction sucked, too. The actors were obviously instructed to deliver their lines as though it was Shakespeare, and there are stupid things like two seconds of character shot where the only word is "hmm". BOR-FUCKING-ING.

Summary: Lucas thinks he's Speilberg, but he isn't even South Park. The only upside is that an entire generation of filmmakers will get their start because they walked out of the movie theatre swearing and saying "I could do better than that!"

--Nat


Jango and the clones

gizmo_mathboy on 2002-06-01T13:51:45

I wondered if Jango was played by someone that was Maori or at least Polynesian (I'm assuming he is part Maori since you said he was a Kiwi actor).

This sort of has to do with some professor claiming that 'Clones was discriminating against Mexicans and other poeple of color. He was saying that Jango looked hispanic and that he was a terrorist. Also, the clone army was based on him and where programmed to be more docilie, blah, blah, blah. Basically painting hispanics and people of color in a bad light.

Re:Jango and the clones

cwest on 2002-06-01T16:49:29

Yet one of the top Jedi is a black man. Yoda is green.

Re:Jango and the clones

hfb on 2002-06-01T17:45:44

I don't know, with acting like that even the black community might call Samuel Jackson white. And Yoda is just Kermit the Frog repackaged for space opera :) In the pilot for Star Trek, Kirk did it with a green chick...now that's entertainment :)

Re:Jango and the clones

jdavidb on 2002-06-03T16:05:44

Star Trek had two pilots. Kirk was not in the one with the green woman (the Orion). Instead it was the previous captain of the Enterprise, Captain Pike. Pike returned in "The Menagerie," a two part episode which reprised the entire pilot ("The Cage") and reunited Pike with his love (who was only temporarily an Orion). In fact, I believe the original copy of "The Cage" was lost and it was reconstructed from footage in "The Menagerie."

I officially have no life.

Re:Jango and the clones

gnat on 2002-06-01T19:09:05

Yup, Temuera Morrison ("Jake the Muss" in "Once Were Warriors" if you want his classic performance) was Jango and the clones.

I'd heard about the Latino thing. Hilarious. Here's one story. Some people just LOVE to be offended.

--Nat

Re:Jango and the clones

ask on 2002-06-02T13:20:08

> Yup, Temuera Morrison ("Jake the Muss" in
> "Once Were Warriors"

... now, that was a cool movie.

Re:Jango and the clones

autarch on 2002-06-02T15:43:51

I don't think anybody _loves_ to be offended.

I do think that some people of color are so used to being treated like crap by white people, and so used to offensive portrayals of people in color in movies and tv, that they become extremely sensitive to this particular issue, to the point of seeing offenses that (perhaps) don't exist.

But to simply discard that as "they love to be offended" is what racism is all about. _You_ aren't affected, so _you_ can laugh it off as _their_ problem. I hate to break it to you. The problem is you and me and other white people, not them.

Re:Jango and the clones

pudge on 2002-06-05T17:22:15

Technically, no, they don't love to be offended. However, they do perversely look forward to it and even seek it out, because they can use it as a means to their political end.

And no, that is not what racism is all about. You're making up definitions again. Racism is about subjugating people because of race; it's not about dismissing claims because they are stupid. Stupid claims are them. I can laugh it off, because it is stupid.

Re:Jango and the clones

Fletch on 2002-06-03T16:28:09

Some people just LOVE to be offended.

/me is reminded of the "Offensensitivity" Bloom County strip (which surprisingly doesn't show up with a quick googling; one would think that somebody would have scanned it in), which ends with everyone running off after determining that life itself is offensive.