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Catalyst summary for 2005/04/18.

draven on 2005-04-18T23:11:03

Today started with some panic.

  • Ooops. discovered some missing files in the 5.01 release. Time to add some manifest tests. Released 5.02 with the missing files.
  • Some of us start collaborating on a Catalyst article. A lot of discussion on what the example should be. Some folks find wikis boring. I'm not among them, and neither is Sri, who makes the Final Decision this time.
  • A minor naming mistake in the fillinform plugin's test is corrected.
  • Fordmason complains about all the poorly documented modules, then proceeds to do something about it by writing Catalyst::Manual::Plugins
    • .
  • Started a new example 'Clobe' - Catalyst planet clone.
Gabb has a fantasy about being sponsored by http://ycombinator.com/

16:28  Imagine a board meeting and suddenly those three guys crash the party on their two-wheel scooters like the apocalyptic riders.
16:28 * gabb shakes
16:29  actually they've upgraded.
16:29  # http://tlb.org/eunicycle.html
16:29  far more apocalyptic
16:30  Wow ... I couldn't imagine this becoming any more geeky or scary - they proved me wrong.

Might I suggest...

phillup on 2005-04-19T00:02:36

Some of us start collaborating on a Catalyst article. A lot of discussion on what the example should be.

There is a reason everyone does the "Hello World" thing. It makes it very easy to compare amongst languages.

More importantly, it is something the reader may already know how to do in some other language. This makes evaluating the technology against what the reader already knows much easier.

With that said, may I suggest the ever so typical and boring database application?

  • Add entries
  • Edit entries
  • Remove entries
  • List entries


That's what I'd like to see.

FWIW I'm looking from a Mason and Maypole point of view.

Re:Might I suggest...

chromatic on 2005-04-19T00:18:02

I'm not sure it does make comparing decent technologies easier. Sure, "Hello, World!" in J2EE fares particularly badly, but J2EE supposedly has lots of advantages for more complicated tasks.

If it's a completely new language, it's probably the right way to start, but if you want to show off a platform or framework to people who will compare it to others, choose an example that shows off your strengths.

Re:Might I suggest...

vilts on 2005-04-19T06:33:54

Hey, This add/edit/remove/list is done by simple CRUD plugin for Catalyst. You can view an example of its usage in http://search.cpan.org/user/sri/Catalyst-5.02/lib/Catalyst/Manual/Cookbook.pod#Scaff olding

And also check out Catalyst::Manual::Intro and Cookbook, they both get you started well.