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Core Java (again)

davorg on 2002-01-22T16:57:27

I got a response from one of the authors of Core Java. I'd written to them to ask why their book implied that Perl wasn't a "real language" and what constituted a "real language" to them.

His reply hinged on two points:

  • It was obvious from the tone that the offending phrase was "editorial comment" and not fact. Removing colour like that from the book make it very dull.
  • He then quoted from an interview with Larry Rosler where Larry outs forward the case for Perl getting some kind of official (i.e. ANSI) standardisation.

So, as suspected, there was no logical argument. Just more FUD.

Oh, and if anyone's interested, I'm finding Java to be really frustrating.

Frustrating Java

ziggy on 2002-01-25T14:54:10

Oh, and if anyone's interested, I'm finding Java to be really frustrating.
Where? How? What's the most frustrating part?

The last time I looked at Java code, I was both amazed and frustrated at how much code it took to do so little. It's like the nature language demands that you create a class hierarchy at least three to four levels deep to do anything slightly more trivial than Hello, World.

Unfortunately, I haven't read much Java code, but given the size of the java-based projects I've seen, I'd say that it's more indicative of the language than the implementor's lack of skill...

Re:Frustrating Java

davorg on 2002-01-25T15:06:31

That's exactly it. If I wanted my code to be as verbose as that I'd write it in COBOL :)