The Perl 6 design team has a weekly phone call to discuss the state of the project. Here are my notes from today's meeting.
Allison:
- mainly going through PDDs
- some auxiliary conversations going on around those
- one interesting one with Audrey yesterday
- Vishal is looking into some of the proposed IMCC refactorings
- I'm glad to have him looking into it
- hope to bless the exceptions PDD by the end of the week
- that's one milestone to knock off of the list
Larry:
- starting to recover from Chicago
- whacking away on the Synopses still
- making clarifications
- paying attention to the trainers when they carp about things that are
hard to teach
- first we paid attention to the original Perl users carping
- now we're paying attention to the implementors
- we are starting to pay attention to the trainers
- things that are hard to pronounce
- maybe rename the pipe operator so as not to conflict with Unix pipes
- talking to Damian about using signature notation to process arguments
coming into a process
- rather than having multiple versions of Getopt
- the exact syntax is indeterminate now
- what if you want to multidispatch to your main()?
- lots of things to consider there
- just keeping my ear open on #perl6
c:
- managed to get Parrot embedded and working from Perl 5 and Ruby
- need some fixes to Parrot to make it work for the test suite
- I may just check in the Perl 5 bindings
Nicholas:
- some comments on my journal entry about Ponie
Jesse:
- I need to write a Perl 6 project update to clarify some of the recent
changes
Nicholas:
- chatted with Audrey about the semantics of Data::Bind
- it does aliasing and read-only aliasing with magic
- it won't work for the corner cases
- the problem is Perl 5's scalar flag bits
- there's a public and a private flag in Perl 5.6
- in 5.8, I added new meanings to the private flag for the non-magic case
- they have different meanings whether a scalar is magic
- effectively you need three bits worth of information
- I think the module will have corner cases with regard to large integers
and blessing
Jesse:
- will there need to be a core change for this to work?
Nicholas:
- yes, but it's a risk
- some companies asked about speeding up Perl 5
- not sure what the strategy is there
- a lot of the problems are unbound
- can plug in the Perl 5.10 regex engine
- might dual-life that for Perl 5.8.1 and later soon
Jesse:
- I've suggested that Rafael move to monthly 5.9.x releases
- some Pugs folks have offered to help with delegatable tasks
- oh, last night the Pugs folks managed to use v6.pm to translate the Perl
6 Test.pm to somewhat idiomatic Perl 5
Nicholas:
- have we found someone to do Perl 6 summaries?
Jesse:
- Ann Barcomb popped up to volunteer
- Audrey will help her with that for a couple of weeks
- we shall see summaries resume in the next little while
- it should include things discussed on IRC
Larry:
- will there be pressure to fork a 5.11 off of a 5.9 before a 5.10 comes
out?
Nicholas:
- I thought the same thing at times
- you don't want to destabilize your 5.10
Jesse:
- most of what the Pugs 5 people have said is that they're using loopholes
as if they were APIs
- they want canonicalization of those
- they're optimizing for fun and not production readiness, so they're fine
with using loopholes for now
Re:Formatting
chromatic on 2006-07-08T17:02:12
What gives is that the more work it is for me to publish the notes, the less likely I'll do it.
I'm sure it would be trivial to build a converter for this format, but I preferred to spend my time actually putting the notes online.
I'm sure a really talented amenuensis could type the notes with lovely formatting in another format, but I just don't type that fast. This is a compromise between accuracy, completeness, and aesthetics. (Actually, I don't care about aesthetics beyond readability.)
