DHTML

ajt on 2006-05-09T11:34:37

Yesterday evening I was doing some DHTML. Nothing fancy just basic stuff. I normally use Firefox+WebDeveloper to develop with, then Konqueror and Opera for testing. IE is so crap I don't even bother with it, until I've got it all working in the better browsers first. Yesterday was a very frustrating, because I failed to read the error message that was staring me in the face! As soon as I bothered to read the error message it was obvious what I had done wrong, and trivial to fix.

Now it's all working, I'll see what horrible things IE does with it... While IE is the dominant browser with 60-80% market share in the target demographic, it's no use to develop with, and more importantly it doesn't run directly on Linux which is my desktop and server OS.


IEs4Linux

strategyoracle on 2006-05-09T18:03:08

You were talking about having to resort to Windows to test your sites in IE - well, now there's no need.

The tool at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/en/instructions/ allows you to run IE6, 5.5 and 5.0 using Wine.

It seems to work well on FC5, anyway.

Re:IEs4Linux

ajt on 2006-05-09T19:31:31

I hadn't seen this particular project, but I knew you can in theory run IE on wine. In my case I run NT inside a QEMU session, which is good enough for testing, but it's a pain for development.

firebug

Dom2 on 2006-05-09T22:46:53

Have you seen the firebug extension? It's like the JavaScript console and DOM inspector all rolled into one. I can't live without it these days.

Also, when you do get around to debugging under IE, don't forget to install the Microsoft Script Debugger. It's slightly better than the default dialog box which just says "an error occurred somewhere but I'm not going to tell you where".

-Dom

Re:firebug

ajt on 2006-05-10T11:16:11

Cool, I'll have to give that a try. I'm already running:

  • Adblock
  • NoScript
  • Web Developer
  • View Source Chart
  • View formatted source
  • Tabbrowser extension

Re:firebug

Dom2 on 2006-05-10T12:21:22

When you check it out, go through a few posts on http://joehewitt.com/ . There's a number of useful tips on how to get the most out of it.

-Dom

Re:firebug

ajt on 2006-05-10T13:50:21

Okay will do, I'm impressed already!

This sure is one very useful tool. Firefox is a fine foundation for building a really useful cross-platform web development tool on.