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JVM Language Summit

acme on 2008-09-29T10:07:27

[image of JVM languages]

The JVM Language Summit took place last week. It really shows off that many different languages are trying to target the JVM to take advantage of the years of optimisation knowledge that Sun has invested. If you want to see what projects are going on, they have kindly placed most of the presentations online. It's interesting to see Metaobject protocols (like Moose and Joose) coming into the limelight.



Hmm

Matts on 2008-09-29T13:12:53

Kind of a depressing image when you look for the one language that's missing off it.

Re:Hmm

sigzero on 2008-09-29T13:22:38

Yes it is. Someone came into the office and starting on about Sleep (which is supposed to be "like" Perl on the JVM). I sadly shook my head and shooed him away.

Re:Hmm

acme on 2008-09-29T14:08:10

Aah, a multi-paradigm scripting language for the Java Platform.

Meh.

educated_foo on 2008-09-30T12:11:02

I don't really see a technical problem. I think Perl is available on more platforms than Java, and for all that people go on about the "huge Java library ecosystem," I have found CPAN to be better for the niche libraries I need. Plus, you can always use Inline::Java (i.e. JNI) if you absolutely must use some Java library.

Jython has been around for a long time without (AFAICT) mattering at all. JRuby only matters because the 1.8 ruby interpreter -- soon to be replaced -- is incredibly slow, and because it had great marketing.

Now people are engaged in deep, deep nonsense. First they started using the JVM because they wanted to use Java. Then, when they realized that java is painful, they looked for other languages but stuck with the JVM. Argh.