Queen Bees

TorgoX on 2002-03-11T17:12:13

Dear Log,

«"And if you do hook up with somebody at the party, please try to limit it to one. Otherwise you look like a slut and that reflects badly on all of us. Kids are not that smart; they're not going to make the distinctions between us."»

-- "Nasty, nasty girls: In American high schools, cliques of 'Queen Bees' dominate, and woe betide those who break their obscure, yet ruthlessly enforced rules"


having attended an all-girls high school...

hfb on 2002-03-11T17:52:34

If you put a group of green berets in my highschool they would have emerged crying and running for their lives. This ain't news any more than the Amazons are news.

Re:having attended an all-girls high school...

TorgoX on 2002-03-11T18:28:59

I think the surprising thing was not that the people were so mean, because high school is about everyone being inadvertently dysfunctional; the surprising thing was that the girl (gyrl?) being interviewed was totally oblivious to how inane she was being.

Re:having attended an all-girls high school...

pudge on 2002-03-11T18:49:20

This kind of thing is one of the reasons I wanted a boy and not a girl. Girls are mean and scary! My hope is that I can raise my daughter to have enough self-confidence that she won't depend so much on what such people think of her.

Girls girls girls!

TorgoX on 2002-03-11T19:11:27

But you can bring her up proper, with lots of healthy real-life female role models -- lika Lisa Simpson, Ru Paul, and Cleopatra Jones!

Re:Girls girls girls!

hfb on 2002-03-11T20:20:54

You know, it still pisses me off that Ru will always have sexier legs and look better in fishnet then I ever will even with photoshop. That Bitch! :)

Re:having attended an all-girls high school...

hfb on 2002-03-11T20:13:16

Well...there are those who believe it's a function of survival since women, being the childbearing gender, are competitive for the attention of the male. I've always been rather jealous of men for being able to have a real comraderie whereas with women it's competitive even in it's most benevolent forms. We are our own worst enemy.

Re:having attended an all-girls high school...

hfb on 2002-03-11T20:18:52

Well, half of the Open Source crowd can't figure out how inane they are sometimes when they go on rants about software wanting to be free....she's only about 16 so there's still hope for her.

Disgust Doesn't Cover It

chaoticset on 2002-03-11T18:20:33

How utterly fucking awful. One more little factor weighed on the scale marked 'Maybe I Don't Need Any Friends After All'.

Knowing your place

lachoy on 2002-03-11T18:29:19

One of the few benefits of being on the fringes (geeks/stoners/etc.) is that at least you know your place. I don't know how you'd be able to go to school, facing all that nastiness, if you were constantly watching your back for daggers.

Why do so many people think of high school as one of the high points in their life? If after graduating I believed high school was the best time in my life I probably would have thrown myself off a bridge. And it wasn't even that bad a time. Maybe the idea of high school being a high point is constructed by and for people at the top of the heap at the time.

I liked one of the last comments:

I ask if boys ever put together three-way calls like that. "Nah," Jackie says. "I don't think they're smart enough."