Rails has peaked

Matts on 2008-01-04T17:49:05

I found this blog post rather interesting. Though take it with a grain of salt obviously.


Bound to happen...

sigzero on 2008-01-04T19:16:14

Other frameworks have grown from what Rails has done. If Ruby had been more entrenched in the web server area it might have lasted longer.

Seaside - the next "rails"

merlyn on 2008-01-04T19:17:36

Allow me to suggest that Seaside - the Smalltalk continuation-based web framework will be the next "Rails". Already faster and in some ways, more powerful, and cross-platform (commercial smalltalks and Squeak all providing support).

I'm exploring Seaside (and Smalltalk in general) in my new blog: Methods and Messages: Randal Schwartz on Smalltalk. Check it out!

Re:Seaside - the next "rails"

Matts on 2008-01-04T19:52:21

Wow. I remember hacking a bit on seaside about 8 or 9 years ago...

Re:Seaside - the next "rails"

djberg96 on 2008-01-04T20:30:17

Yeah. Sure. Massive Smalltalk adoption in the worldwide IT industry is right around the corner. Yep. Any moment now.

If there's a "next Rails", it's Django, not Seaside.

Google Trends/Alexa vs. DICE

renodino on 2008-01-04T20:35:10

I see this as another case of using noisy (and to some extent, downright bogus) stats. As usual, if you want to know the truth, follow the money.

Alas, my graphic only tracks Ruby, not Rails, but I think they'd correlate pretty closely (esp. since the Rails crowd has hijacked the language). My read of the jobs data indicates Ruby has stalled...but so have Python and Perl. The real Next Big Thing (sadly) appears to be PHP.

I guess there's no accounting for tastes. At least Perl stalled at a 4x to 8x greater level than the others.

Re:Google Trends/Alexa vs. DICE

djberg96 on 2008-01-04T20:45:47

"The real Next Big Thing (sadly) appears to be PHP."

You're probably right. I get the feeling that the PHP community has probably learned a lot from Rails and Django frameworks in general. Hey, if they can do it better, faster and cheaper, then hats off to 'em.

Heh

djberg96 on 2008-01-04T20:35:56

One guy goes nuclear and suddenly Rails is dying, eh?

I think not.

Re:Heh

sigzero on 2008-01-05T03:22:36

No, I don't think anyone is saying "dying". It isn't the shiny new thing any more though. Not by a long shot.