iBook, again

Matts on 2004-02-21T12:04:34

My iBook has died once again. This is the FOURTH time now.

I've decided it's time to retire the iBook and pressure work into getting me a laptop. The company standard laptop is an IBM thinkpad, which I'll use if I have to, but I'd rather they got me a Powerbook (obviously!). If I get a Thinkpad I'll have to install Linux on it, which I'm using on my desktop while my iBook is broken and it's unbearable compared to the mac - horrible font rendering, crappy applications, incompatible keyboard shortcuts, broken cut and paste, etc. It's better than windows (because I won't use cmd.exe and Cygwin or MSSFU is just a short stop IMHO) but it's a really really long way from a usable desktop OS.

I'm hoping the iBook will be repaired under the Apple iBook warranty extension program, since the symptoms are all exactly as listed here.


It's all personal, but...

phillup on 2004-02-21T16:19:31

OK, I'll be the first to say that most of the things you mentioned boil down to personal taste.

But... I'm gonna call you on the copy / paste thing.

Yep. I know about all the apps that don't share info on the "clipboard" in Linux.

But, at least I don't have to remember to use a keyboard combo to actually get info into the clipboard.

Only about 50 times a day do I find myself screaming (it's OK, I work from home... nobody can hear me ;-)) after shuffling thru the windows... hiliting some text... shuffling thru some more windows... and middle clicking.

(OK, since Panther it is more like... F9... squint... wonder which postage stamp is the window I'm looking for... and click...)

Only to find my damn powerbook gleefully ignoring every thing I've told it to do.

Why on earth can't it simply put what I hilite into the damn clipboard? Oh... I know... You wouldn't want to dare overwrite what is in there?

Well... pet peeve #2... why in the hell is there only one clipboard?

On my linux box, using the apps I use, copy/paste is generations ahead of both Windows and MacOS... any flavors.

Normally I'd just shut up and read... but, I've already screamed twice this morning in the last 15 minutes due to the lackluster copy/paste on this thing...

Re:It's all personal, but...

Matts on 2004-02-21T22:08:02

I've done both cut-n-paste systems for a number of years. I spent about 4 years using nothing but Unix (mostly Linux) on the desktop, and seriously thought that cut and paste was too much effort on Windows.

But having used a Unix with a decent UI I'm won over. Gone are those irritating moments of highlighting something by accident and having my clipboard buffer blatted. It's just too confusing. I guess it comes back to the old unix style of being user friendly but choosy about who it's friends with. I guess for me unix has a new friend called Mac OS and I'd rather be in that gang.

However I am VERY torn about this. Here I am talking about getting another piece of hardware from a manufacturer that has BADLY let me down on reliability. If OS X were available on other hardware I'd definitely consider other manufacturers.

Re:It's all personal, but...

phillup on 2004-02-22T01:01:51

Gone are those irritating moments of highlighting something by accident and having my clipboard buffer blatted.

I can see that, if I only had one clipboard... but I have klippy set for ten levels of history.

Instead, I get irritated when I hilite something in OSX and it isn't in the clipboard when I want to paste it.

Re:It's all personal, but...

Matts on 2004-02-22T12:11:25

Does that mean if you accidentally highlight something new you have to go into klipper and tell it you actually want a different buffer? Can you do that without using the mouse?

Re:It's all personal, but...

phillup on 2004-02-22T23:24:26

If you highlight something... it will get stuffed into the most recent buffer. Everything else will shift... and the oldest item will drop out of the history. You can adjust how large you want the history to be.

When you go to paste you can use ctrl+alt+v to show the buffer, use the cursor keys to select and then paste... if you don't want the most recent item.

Or, you can use the mouse.

Still not the most optimal... but worlds better than only one clipboard, IMHO.

Re:It's all personal, but...

Dom2 on 2004-02-22T09:12:07

Don't get confused with the selection and clipoard buffers in X. The selection is intended to be ephemeral. The clipboard is not and stays around longer (although it is lost if the process exits, which is annoying and why your need to have xclipboard or klipper handy).

-Dom

Re:It's all personal, but...

pudge on 2004-02-25T19:01:40

But, at least I don't have to remember to use a keyboard combo to actually get info into the clipboard.

Yes, and why should you need a keyboard combo to get information OUT OF the clipboard?!?

Linux on the Laptop

chromatic on 2004-02-21T17:54:24

I agree with phillup. Besides Linux, I'd only consider running NetBSD or FreeBSD. Mac OS X is kinda nice, but it's pretty obvious they don't want me as a customer.

Re:Linux on the Laptop

jhi on 2004-02-21T19:00:38

> Mac OS X is kinda nice, but it's pretty obvious they don't want me as a customer.

That's fine, it leaves more Macs for the rest of us :-)