Goodbye USA

Alias on 2008-02-27T02:45:20

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jsanM66tszKz1zFq0LOG4XvWS7zAD8V293480

Most of the business and economics people I respect have been saying for a couple of years now that the US economy is "cactus". The first people to put their balls on the line were saying this in 2004, anticipating the like effects of the massive stimulation caused by the interest rate falls of the time.

Through 2005 and 2006, opinion start to line up behind the the position that the scenario was becoming inevitable, with no escape options left.

The housing bubble collapse, and resulting world credit squeeze, was merely the trigger.

The underlying cause of the whole situation is a problem called a "triple deficit".

The idea of the triple deficit is that the health of a country's economic, and the risk of various policy actions, can be determined by examining 3 main cash flow indicators in a combined fashion.

1. Public Accounts (Government Surplus/Deficit)

2. Private Accounts (Citizen and Corporate Surplus/Deficit)

3. Trade Accounts (Trade Surplus/Deficit)

While deficits are generally seen as "bad", the triple deficit concept suggests that deficits in individual elements can be benign if they are balanced by the other elements.

Under these rules, a high-exporting country like Germany or China can make a decision to spend big and run up big government debts if it needs to, because it is healthy in overall terms.

The dangerous scenario from which negative consequences seem to always result is the situation in which you simultaneously have public debt, private debt, AND trade debt. The longer it lasts, and the higher the debt levels (in relative terms of course) the worst the final outcome.

For more background, there is a very interesting recent paper produced by the Budapest College of Management, looking at the state of Hungary's current triple-deficit as well.

http://tinyurl.com/2k4vfv (PDF file)

Ever since the dot-com crash the US has been running with a high government deficit (now close to but not quite record levels in GDP terms), a high private deficit (made worse by the low interest rates and resulting credit and housing glut) and a high trade deficit (thanks to China and Walmart-and-friends).

The initial inevitable consequences of this are in full swing now. The large fall in the US dollar is by now obvious to all and sundry.

Warren Buffet made a major bet on this move a while back, moving a vast sum of money into the Brazillian currency. (a strong growing energy-independant democracy with high resources)

Buffet is particular interesting to watch because the cash pile he is sitting on is so large that he is unable to invest in short term events without his moves affecting those markets. As economic entities get larger, their performance inevitably approaches the performance of the economy as a whole.

So he is limited to betting mainly on country-scale and long term trends.

The current fall helps address the manufactured goods component of the trade deficit in particular, because it effectively imposes a trade tariff, making local manufacturing more competitive against foreign manufacturing.

Buffet recently bought a giant US generalized manufacturing conglomerate, effectively betting on US manufacturing as a whole.

Unfortunately, here is where things get ugly.

Although the currency fall helps manufacturing, there's lag involved, particularly in areas where manufacturing has largely died domestically. Thing textiles, toys and light bulbs. Industries you can't just bootstrap overnight.

Worse, the US also has a huge energy deficit, which can't be as easily correct by a drop in the US dollar. In fact, since energy prices controlled by supply/demand at a global level, the fall in the US dollar results in a very significant price spike in the cost of energy, above and beyond the underlying increases in energy prices.

The combination of rising import prices on household expenses and rising energy prices together creates a major risk of one of the most dangerous economic beats, "stagflation".

Stagflation is so dangerous because there's very little you can do about it. The Reserve Banks, whose normal job it is to control inflation, has one big weapon. Interest rates.

Under normal circumstances, with inflation driven by excessive economic activity, a rise in interest rates dampens this activity, and helps bring inflation undercontrol.

In stagflation, inflation is high DESPITE the economy being weak. Interest rate rises have less of an effect on stagflation and can easily be pushed too far (the effect of 15%+ home loan rates and the resulting recession from the 80s is burned into the Australian racial memory).

And with a triple-deficit in play, some of the other safety values are missing as well. Governments, already cash-strapped, can't simply spend big to help the country past the problem.

And thus, the three deficits, although resulting from separate causes, combine together in a devastating fashion. The Private Debt triggers the problem, the Trade Debt creates the stagflation, and the Public Debt prevents countermeasures.

As you can see at that first link, we now have the clearest evidence yet that the US economy is in bad enough shape to kick off stagflation, and that it's probably happening right now.

So it appears the US economy is indeed cactus.

You have my sincerest condolences, living under stagflation is not fun.


Don't say goodbye so fast...

btilly on 2008-02-27T04:22:07

Current evidence suggests that we're dragging down the rest of the world with us. See for instance recent Economist articles on how countries that thought they were more insulated from the US economy than in the past are discovering that they are still highly exposed to the USA.

We're just too big a part of the global economy for the global economy to ignore our implosion.

Results may vary...

Alias on 2008-02-27T08:19:35

There's drag and then there's drag.

We're in the middle of a short-term global credit shock, at the start of a medium-term energy and food shock, and we've still got unquantifiable environmental shocks ahead of us which will reflect at the very least in the insurance and reinsurance markets.

With food prices for most stables linked to energy prices, the prospect of a simultaneous energy/food shock (two of the most fundamental products) means the entire world is moving in a recessionary direction anyways.

The question being asked is not "Will the US have an impact" but "Can we keep the US impact on us SMALL ENOUGH to only represent a tolerable slow-down".

In some areas, especially energy, they would WELCOME a slow-down to give the world some more time to adjust to higher energy prices.

Australia, at the centre of a once-in-a-century minerals boom, is currently bursting at the seems, with record-low unemployment, major inflationary pressure (of the traditional wage inflation kind) and personal I suspect the treasury would appreciate a break.

It's getting so tight here that DESPITE the government having zero debt massive surpluses, newspaper economics are pleading the government to NOT give out tax cuts they promised during the election, to try to keep inflation under control.

So far, I don't see any really obvious examples of major fallout from the US economic collapse (granted, it's early days yet). Growth numbers are certainly tightening around the world. But so far it all looks (at a global scale, relatively containable).

Assuming this is as bad as it gets of course.

But those US numbers suggest we're moving into a new more dramatic phase now, and it remains to be seen what impact that will have.

Complete "decoupling" is probably a myth, but if we get away a bit from the whole "when the US sneezes" problem, we'll probably still see a slowdown mild enough to be tolerable.

Re:Results may vary...

Phred on 2008-02-27T19:17:56

"But those US numbers suggest we're moving into a new more dramatic phase now, and it remains to be seen what impact that will have."

That's the dangerous thing about numbers, once people believe them they start to become real. People are behind those numbers, and people always have an agenda or a bias, no matter how subtle.

It is interesting to follow all of the economic speculation in the news. The one thing that seems to be missing from the equations though is that surprising adaptability that homo sapiens had continuously displayed over the last tens of thousands of years.

blog as powerpoint presentation

slanning on 2008-02-28T10:58:21

Writing lots of paragraphs of less than or equal to two sentences makes it seem more analytical, doesn't it?

Re:blog as powerpoint presentation

Alias on 2008-02-29T13:24:39

It certainly helps my frame my argument more cleanly...

Also, it's probably a fallout from writing POD documentation.

Read F. William Engdahl

grinder on 2008-02-28T23:22:28

I find the writings of By F. William Engdahl to be very informative. He has just published a new essay on the asset securitisation debacle in the USA. It contains a succinct passage that brings clarity to the issue I've not seen elsewhere:

Lending banks no longer needed to carry a mortgage loan on its books for 20-30 years as was traditional. They sold it on at a discount and used the cash to turn the next round of credit issuing.

That meant as well that the lending bank now no longer had to worry if the loan would ever be repaid.

emphasis mine. It's part of a series called The Financial Tsunami, currently up to part 5. Well worth tracking down, as are his books.

Bah

pudge on 2008-03-20T17:04:04

There are a lot of problems, but none of them are new, and we've gotten through just as bad. Yes, I am not worried.

The fall of the U.S. dollar is not bad. It just is. I called that, hell, last decade maybe? And it's happened about when I thought it would.

And we were actually running a government deficit before and during the dot-com years. The budget was very briefly in surplus during the best of those years, but our unfunded liabilities, especially medicare and social security and debt interest, continued to grow larger than that surplus.

The drop of the dollar is GOOD in many ways because it means we will import less and export more. I want it to stay low. The people this hurts the most are certain investors (who have only themselves to blame for any losses) and Americans who travel abroad (sucks to be them), as well as, of course, importers. But importers and exporters can't both be happy for very long, and I'd prefer the exporters be happy.

Yes, there is lag involved, always. Yes, it will be painful in between. That is normal and expected, and we've gone through it before.

As to energy, shrug, this just means we'll do more nuclear (it's about damned time) and local resources.

Again, lag and pain. Yep. Every country goes through this. I'd still rather be us than almost any country in Europe, which suffers from lower GDP per capita and higher unemployment and higher energy prices.

And with a triple-deficit in play, some of the other safety values are missing as well. Governments, already cash-strapped, can't simply spend big to help the country past the problem.
Thank fucking goodness. This is a nice short-term solution, but helps CAUSE the problems that precipitate more economic woes down the road. I'd rather the government simply hand out the money than spend it on new expenditures, which end up bloating the budget, which never comes down again.

As you can see at that first link, we now have the clearest evidence yet that the US economy is in bad enough shape to kick off stagflation, and that it's probably happening right now.
Well, we'll see. The one thing left you didn't give much mention to was unemployment, and while there are definite signs of increased unemployment (a couple months in a row of negative job growth, IIRC), we have yet to know whether this is a short-term correction or a longer trend like we saw in the 70s. As long as unemployment stays relatively low, that is the main thing.

I am not optimistic about it, but not pessimistic either. If it happens, it happens. My greatest hope is that government can SLASH spending, ease the tax burden, ease regulations, let us grow out of it in a HEALTHY way.