The Perl 6 design team met by phone on 30 July 2008. Allison, Jerry, Will,
Jesse, and chromatic attended.
Allison:
- OSCON was a success
- now I'm completely free from all responsibilities until at least December
- launched the PIR PDD
- now working on the last few failing language tests before I merge back the concurrency branch
- also spent some time talking to PhD advisors at Cambridge this week
- might start fall 2009, if I can get funding and such
- leaving for London on Saturday
- speaking at the BBC on Tuesday
- may miss next week's meetings
c:
- was very busy with OSCON
- trying to apply a few patches
- trying to get other people to the place where they can help with that
- mostly I need tasks I can do in 30 minutes when I can grab an hour or two
- fixed some small stuff at the hackathon
Allison:
- I need to split up the MMD PDD into bite-sized tasks
Jerry:
- OSCON was fabulous
- our talk was successful
- good feedback and enthusiasm
- the lighting talks with Jeff were successful
- most of my hacking was on mod_parrot
- trying to refactor its configure system into something more robust and portable
- it's just about working in the same state it was before
- hope to reach that point this afternoon
- met with some folks at Microsoft's open source lab on Monday
- promising beginning to a relationship between them and the Parrot Foundation
- the hackathon was productive as well
Jesse:
- I talked to some Sun people about what makes CPAN tick
Will:
- mostly absent the past couple of weeks
- trying to resurrect Tcl, which was untouched for some time
- making progress there on spec tests
- identifying what's left to do
c:
- what's our roadmap look like for the rest of the year?
Jesse:
- I asked Patrick about that
- he said there's a good chance to get that from the hackathon
- if not, he said I could get his attention at YAPC and get his milestones to break down soon
Jerry:
- he spoke on IRC about that today
- he wants to break it down into better granularity and put dependencies between tasks
- have a feeling it'll happen at YAPC::EU
- Jonathan is keen to get together with Allison and Patrick there to discuss related designs
c:
- I've noticed projects in Parrot like Reini's attempt to get installation and loading sorted out
- seems like time to get those sorted out
Jerry:
- it's difficult to have willing volunteers and not get them the right guidance
- and to make "eventually" now
c:
- thinking we should ask Reini for a list of concerns, needs, and use cases
- then try to make a design that addresses more of those
Jerry:
- especially as he's about to leave on a two-week business trip
- sounds like a PDD to me
Allison:
Jerry:
- library loading, runtime components
c:
- does he have commit access?
Jerry:
- we can encourage him to apply
c:
- thinking about bindings to Prophet
- probably client-side
Jerry:
Will:
- we have experimental sockets
- we need to make tickets or mark up PDDs for unimplemented things
- I did some of that with PDD 19 today
- stuff's deprecated and only exists in the PDD
- just to warn people who are going to write code that docs don't match reality
Jerry:
- that merits a CAGE task for reviewing the PDDs
- we could spread that out among many people
Will:
c:
- and post it on parrotblog
Will:
c:
- they won't if we don't publish them
Jesse:
- I see them posted places like Reddit fairly often
Allison:
- probably will roll that into parrot.org eventually
