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New www.perl.org Introduced

ziggy on 2003-07-09T21:00:00

Robrt writes "Ask, Lisa, and I are proud to announce the new www.perl.org. A complete redesign, aiming to be the premier perl portal."

keeping up with the onions

nicholas on 2003-07-09T21:29:15

Nice. Good work

But looking at its headlines I see that for use.perl it says use.perl Project Ponie: Perl On New Internals Engine. That's sooooooo yesterday. :-)

A few suggestions

SuperCruncher on 2003-07-09T22:41:26

In general, the web site looks pretty good, but I've got a few suggestions, as I had when I posted about the new Perl Foundation web site.

  • No page title supplied in the <title> tag. Less likely to get a good search engine rating and users will have to manually type a name in when they bookmark the page.
  • Acronyms not written in all uppercase, e.g. nntp, cgi, pdf and so on.
  • Grammar nazis might disagree with me, but I think that the first entry under each main heading (e.g. "About Perl", "Get Perl") should have an initial capital.
  • Again, I might be wrong about this but when you're writing the name of a publication where the title includes 'The', the 'the' should be written with an initial capital, e.g. 'The Perl Journal'. But again, I might be wrong.
  • What happened to the good fast facts page on the previous site design?

If anyone wants my help on the site (so I'm not accused of complaining and not offering any help), please let me know. Just another idea as a closing thought: what about copying Python's (yes, I did say copying something from Python!) Python in Business idea? A sleek site might help clueless mangers adopt Perl, but maybe I'm being too optimistic.

Re:A few suggestions

inkdroid on 2003-07-09T23:23:55

On the subject of PythonInBusiness, I really like O'Reilly section on Perl's success stories. Not sure if adding somethint like it to perl.org is redundant or not. The redesign looks great!

Re:A few suggestions

TeeJay on 2003-07-10T10:33:02

No it would be different for a different audience - less technical more 'business' i.e. dumbed down and buzzwordy.

Of course it could and should point to the success stories as well.

I would expect it to include such things as - Perl Training in each country, how to find perl employees, perl applications available, etc.

Re:A few suggestions

delegatrix on 2003-07-11T16:44:03

perl.org does point to the O'reilly success stories.

Re:A few suggestions

podmaster on 2003-07-10T10:54:39

I second the title business. I'd prefer to see "Perl.org - yada " style titles.

The icon they have is messed up (just a black block). They should use the SWEET http://perlmonks.org/favicon.ico

That'll sweeten it up some.

Re:A few suggestions

koschei on 2003-07-10T13:39:34

What browser are you using? Renders as a lovely little camel here in Mozilla.

Re:A few suggestions

podmaster on 2003-07-15T02:34:09

In IE it doesn't show in the toolbar, if I go to http://www.perl.org/favicon.ico it's just a black block.

If i download it it looks blurred (like you put gaussian blur 4, and just made it very very fuzzy) In mozilla it just looks kinda broken See

www.perl.org.favicon.jpg

In phoenix it don't show up at all (just like IE)

I am on Win2k

Re:A few suggestions

koschei on 2003-07-15T03:37:06

IE 6.0.2800.110615 on Win2K works just fine.

Re:A few suggestions

vek on 2003-07-10T13:52:40

The icon they have is messed up (just a black block).

Hmm, looks fine to me (Mozilla). A nice little camel in fact.

Re:A few suggestions

ask on 2003-07-13T11:03:45

The icon looks good here. And much prettier than the perlmonks one.

Regarding the titles: TMTOWTDI. ;-)

  - ask

Re:A few suggestions

Robrt on 2003-07-13T01:31:36

Dear SuperCruncher,

I want to respond point by point, but can't bring myself to.

I have fixed the bug regarding title tags.

Re:A few suggestions

delegatrix on 2003-07-14T12:17:31

Grammar nazis would tell you that nntp, cgi, and pdf are abbreviations, not acronyms.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

As for altered capitalization, that's called artistic license.

JIT

Juerd on 2003-07-10T07:40:03

Only yesterday I decided to write a meditation on PerlMonks about perl.org and how it didn't make Perl look good, etcetera.

I like the new perl.org. Good work!

Looks good, but...

phraktyl on 2003-07-10T16:52:17

The one thing I have to address is that the page width is static. So, for those of us who use a wide browser, the new page only uses the left half of the window. In addition to not using the screen real estate, this causes issues with printing as well.

Re:Looks good, but...

delegatrix on 2003-07-11T16:45:13

Yes, the next upgrade is planned as a fluid design.

DNS

bart on 2003-07-11T00:45:37

Nice but... it'd be nicer still if a simple link to perl.org didn't give me a DNS error... but instead showed the site. After all, that is the name you use to refer to the site, no?

Re:DNS

Robrt on 2003-07-13T01:28:56

For historical reasons the URL is http://www.perl.org, although the name of the site is "perl.org".

This may or may not change in the future. If you're interested in why, please find two people on opposite sides of the "www" vs "no www" debate, and wind them up.

Re:DNS

koschei on 2003-07-15T03:43:43

Wouldn't you be able to have both? Or have the shorter redirect to the longer?

Links to Online Tutorials

Shlomi Fish on 2003-07-19T20:05:43

There aren't too many links to online tutorials, but there should be.

I could also use a link to http://perl-begin.berlios.de/